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Ra vs Rz: Which Surface Roughness Callout Do You Need?

Ra averages the surface; Rz hunts its extremes. Both live in ISO 4287 and ASME B46.1, neither converts cleanly to the other, and picking the wrong one is a classic way to fail an incoming inspection. Here is what each parameter actually measures and when to put it on a drawing.

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IsoCNC Engineering Team

CNC Machining & DFM Engineers · Updated · 13 min read

Caliper measuring a machined metal part — Ra vs Rz surface roughness callouts on CNC drawings

Quick Answer

Ra is the arithmetic mean of the surface profile's absolute deviations from the mean line — a stable, repeatable average, and the default callout on US drawings (ASME B46.1). Rz is the mean of the peak-to-valley heights across five sampling lengths — sensitive to scratches, pits, and peaks, and the traditional callout on European drawings. There is no fixed conversion: Rz typically runs 4–7× Ra as a rule of thumb, but real ratios range from about 2:1 to over 20:1. Specify Ra for general surface control; add Rz when sealing, coating adhesion, or fatigue makes the extremes functional.

What Ra and Rz Actually Measure

Both parameters come from the same raw data: a stylus (or optical sensor) traces a line across the surface, and the recorded profile is filtered to separate roughness from waviness. Ra — roughness average — is the arithmetic mean of the absolute values of every deviation from the mean line over the sampling length. Every point on the trace counts equally, so the result describes the overall texture of the surface. It is defined identically in ISO 4287 and ASME B46.1, so Ra travels between US and international drawings without confusion.

Rz — mean roughness depth — ignores most of the profile and concentrates on the extremes. Under ISO 4287, the evaluation length is divided into five sampling lengths; in each, the vertical distance from the highest peak to the lowest valley is measured, and Rz is the mean of those five heights. One caution: the symbol Rz has carried different formulas across eras. The legacy DIN and JIS "ten-point height" Rz averaged the five highest peaks and five deepest valleys within a single sampling length — a different calculation that can return a different number from the same surface, and ISO 21920 has since tightened the definition again. On old drawings and old gauges, "Rz" is not always the same Rz, so when a dispute arises, the first question is which standard and algorithm the instrument is running.

Ra vs Rz at a Glance

The two parameters are complementary, not competing. Ra tells you about the surface as a whole; Rz tells you about its worst features. The differences that matter on a drawing:

Ra vs Rz comparison: definition, calculation, sensitivity, and typical use
Ra (Roughness Average)Rz (Mean Roughness Depth)
What it measuresArithmetic mean of the absolute deviations of the profile from the mean line, over the sampling lengthMean of the peak-to-valley heights (highest peak to lowest valley) measured in each sampling length, averaged over five sampling lengths
Defined inISO 4287, ASME B46.1ISO 4287 (older DIN/JIS "ten-point" Rz used a different formula)
Sensitivity to defectsLow — averaging suppresses single scratches, pits, and burrsHigh — built to respond to the extremes Ra averages away
RepeatabilityVery stable across operators and instrumentsMore variable; a single deep groove moves the result
Typical drawing regionUS practice (ASME B46.1 / Y14.36); global defaultEuropean practice, especially German drawings (DIN heritage)
Best used forGeneral surface control, cosmetic and mating surfacesSealing, coating adhesion, fatigue, and sliding surfaces where peaks or valleys are functional

The repeatability row deserves emphasis. Because Ra averages hundreds of points, two operators on two gauges will land on nearly the same number. Rz is built from a handful of peaks and valleys, so it varies more from trace to trace — a real consideration when a supplier and a customer are checking the same part in different countries. For the broader context of finish callouts — N grades, microinch conversions, lay symbols — see our CNC machining surface finish guide.

Why There Is No Ra-to-Rz Conversion

Every machinist's handbook has an Ra-to-Rz conversion chart, and every one of them is a trap. The reason is arithmetic, not opinion: Ra averages every deviation on the profile, so a single deep scratch barely moves it. Rz is built from the highest peaks and deepest valleys, so the same scratch dominates it. Published Ra:Rz ratios range from roughly 2:1 on uniform ground surfaces to over 20:1 on surfaces with isolated defects. A conversion chart cannot know which surface you have — that is the entire problem.

Inspecting a machined part — measuring Ra and Rz surface roughness with a profilometer

The widely quoted rule of thumb — Rz ≈ 4–7 × Ra — is an empirical screening estimate for typical machined textures, not a standard and not a contract. It has one legitimate job: sanity-checking. If a drawing calls out Rz 16 and your profilometer reads Ra 3.8, the estimate (15–27) tells you the part is probably in the neighborhood — but that is not inspection. If the drawing specifies Rz, measure Rz with the correct sampling length and cutoff; if it specifies Ra, measure Ra. And if a customer's drawing shows one parameter while your quality plan tracks the other, resolve the callout before production — a finish dispute found at final inspection is the most expensive version of this conversation. The same discipline applies to dimensional specs, covered in our CNC machining tolerances guide.

When Rz Catches What Ra Misses

The functional argument for Rz comes down to failure modes that live at the extremes of the profile. Sealing surfaces: one deep valley crossing an O-ring groove or gasket face is a leak path, no matter how good the average is — Ra will report that surface as fine while the seal weeps. Coating and bonding: peaks poke through thin coatings and valleys starve adhesive, so peak-to-valley height controls the result. Fatigue: cracks nucleate at scratches, and Rz is the parameter that sees the scratch. Sliding and bearing contacts: the load rides on the peaks, so peak height distribution matters more than the mean.

Ra keeps its crown for everything else — cosmetic surfaces, general mating fits, clearance features — because it is fast, cheap, and extraordinarily repeatable. On critical drawings you will often see both: an Ra value controlling the overall texture plus an Rz cap acting as a defect limit. That two-parameter callout is more common on European drawings, and it is good practice worth borrowing. Roughness also interacts with geometric controls — a sealing face frequently carries both a roughness callout and a flatness or profile tolerance, the territory covered in our GD&T basics for CNC machining.

Measuring Ra and Rz on the Shop Floor

The workhorse instrument is the contact stylus profilometer: a diamond-tipped stylus drags across the surface and its vertical deflection becomes the profile. Three settings decide whether your number matches the customer's number. Cutoff wavelength (sampling length): ISO 4288 sets defaults by roughness range — 0.8 mm cutoff for the Ra 0.1–2 µm band, 2.5 mm for Ra 2–10 µm. The standard evaluation is five sampling lengths, so a 0.8 mm cutoff means a 4 mm evaluation length. Measure a fine ground surface with a 2.5 mm cutoff and you fold waviness into the roughness number. Stylus tip radius: 5 µm is the robust workshop standard, adequate down to about Ra 0.5 µm; finer finishes need a 2 µm tip. Direction: trace perpendicular to the lay — measuring along the tool marks of a turned shaft reads the valleys, not the surface.

Optical instruments — white-light interferometers and confocal systems — map an area without touching the part, protecting soft materials and enabling areal parameters (Sa, Sz) that describe the whole surface rather than one line. They cost more, so most shops verify Ra and Rz with a stylus and reserve optical for critical or delicate surfaces. Note that some budget gauges report only Ra — confirm yours actually computes Rz before accepting an Rz callout. If a spec is disputed, a reference to the standard on the drawing (ISO 4287/4288 or ASME B46.1) settles the measurement conditions — the same logic as any other symbol on the print, covered in our engineering drawing symbols guide.

Typical Ra and Rz by CNC Process

The Ra column below reflects what each process holds in normal production; the Rz column applies the 4–7× rule of thumb and is marked as approximate for exactly the reasons above. Use it for planning and quoting, not for acceptance.

Typical Ra and approximate Rz ranges by CNC machining process
ProcessTypical Ra (um / uin)Approx. Rz (um)*N Grade (nearest)
Standard CNC milling1.6–3.2 / 63–1258–20N7–N8
Standard CNC turning0.8–3.2 / 32–1254–20N6–N8
Fine turning / precision milling0.4–1.6 / 16–632–10N5–N7
Surface / cylindrical grinding0.2–1.6 / 8–631–10N4–N7
Honing0.1–0.8 / 4–320.5–5N3–N6
Lapping / superfinishing0.025–0.2 / 1–80.1–1.5N1–N4
Bead blasting (as-machined + blast)1.6–6.3 / 63–2508–40N7–N9

*Approximate Rz values apply the empirical Rz ≈ 4–7 × Ra rule to typical machined textures. Actual ratios vary with surface morphology — measure the parameter the drawing specifies.

Two drawing habits save real money. First, specify roughness per surface, not as a blanket note — a drawing-wide "Ra 1.6" forces finish passes on surfaces that would work fine at 3.2, and the quote reflects it. Second, name the parameter and, when it matters, the standard: "Ra 1.6 µm max per ASME B46.1" or "Rz 10 µm max per ISO 4287" leaves nothing to interpret across an ocean. Our China CNC machining team runs stylus profilometer verification per ISO 4288 defaults on first articles and production lots, and reports both Ra and Rz when the drawing asks for either.

FAQ: Ra vs Rz

What is the difference between Ra and Rz?

Ra is the arithmetic mean of the profile's absolute deviations from the mean line over a sampling length — a general average of how rough the surface is. Rz is the mean of the peak-to-valley heights in each of five sampling lengths: it looks only at the extremes. So Ra is stable and repeatable but averages away isolated scratches and pits, while Rz responds strongly to exactly those defects. Two surfaces can share the same Ra and differ by a factor of several in Rz — which is why sealing and fatigue-critical surfaces are often specified in Rz.

Can I convert Ra to Rz?

Not reliably. Ra averages everything and Rz captures the extremes, so no fixed factor exists — published ratios run from roughly 2:1 to over 20:1 depending on surface texture. The shop rule of thumb Rz ≈ 4–7 × Ra is a screening estimate only: fine for sanity-checking a quote, never for accepting a part. If the drawing says Rz, measure Rz. When a customer drawing and your gauge disagree on the parameter, clarify the callout before cutting metal, not at inspection.

Why do European drawings use Rz and American drawings use Ra?

Habit and standard lineage. North American practice is built on ASME B46.1 and ASME Y14.36, where Ra is the default parameter. European — especially German — drawing practice inherited Rz from the older DIN surface standards, and it stuck because its sensitivity to peaks and valleys suits the sealing and bearing surfaces common in German mechanical design. Neither is wrong, but they are not interchangeable: when a drawing crosses the Atlantic, confirm which parameter is intended before you quote against it.

When should I specify Rz instead of Ra?

Specify Rz when the extremes of the profile are what fail the part: sealing surfaces (one deep valley is a leak path), surfaces to be coated or bonded (peaks and valleys control adhesion and coating thickness), fatigue-critical parts (scratches nucleate cracks), and sliding or bearing contacts (the load rides on the peaks). Ra remains the right general callout for cosmetic, mating, and clearance surfaces because it is cheap, fast, and highly repeatable. Many critical drawings carry both — Ra for the overall texture plus an Rz cap as a defect limit.

Is Rz always higher than Ra?

In practice, yes — Rz measures peak-to-valley height while Ra averages deviations around the mean line, so Rz is almost always the larger number. How much larger depends on the surface: a uniform ground surface might sit near 4× Ra, while a turned surface with one deep scratch can exceed 10×. That variability is why no conversion table should be used to accept or reject parts — if you need Rz, measure it with the correct sampling length and cutoff.

What Ra value should I put on a standard CNC machined part?

For general machined surfaces, Ra 3.2 µm (125 µin, N8) is the practical as-machined standard — a well-run mill or lathe holds it without extra cost. Step to Ra 1.6 µm (N7) for visible or mating surfaces, and Ra 0.8 µm (N6) for sliding, sealing, or controlled-contact surfaces, which usually needs a finish pass or grinding. Below Ra 0.4 µm you are in grinding, honing, or lapping territory and the price climbs steeply. The cheapest finish is the loosest one that still works: specify roughness per surface, not as a blanket note.

Get the Finish Your Drawing Actually Specifies

IsoCNC machines and inspects to your callout — Ra, Rz, or both — with profilometer verification per ISO 4288 and ASME B46.1, finish samples on request, and an engineer reviewing every drawing before we quote. Send your print; typical RFQ turnaround is 1–2 business days.